Tithing: A talk I gave in church

I was asked to speak in church this sunday with the topic being on Tithing.  Here are my notes from that talk:


Tithing is a fundamental principle to the personal happiness and well-being of Church members both rich and poor. It is a sacrifice that the lord expects us to make.

In old Testament times the Lords people were command to make Sacrifices. Back then these Sacrifices were in the form of . . .

In “Lectures on Faith (1985), 69–70.” The Prophet Joseph Smith is quoted as saying, “A religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things never has power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation. Those who do not make the sacrifice cannot enjoy this faith, because men are dependent upon this sacrifice in order to obtain this faith.”

Talk by James E Faust:

Jame E. Faust, The Second Counselor in the First Presidency commented on this in the Oct. 1998 Sunday morning session of conference saying:
“If something can be had cheaply, without exertion or sacrifice, people do not mind having a little bit of it. In contrast, the blessings of membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints require both exertion and sacrifice. Receiving the blessings requires the payment of tithes and offerings.”
To expand on his topic President Faust gave this story:
“As a boy I learned a great lesson of faith and sacrifice as I worked on my grandfather’s farm during the terrible economic depression of the 1930s. The taxes on the farm were delinquent, and Grandfather, like so many, had no money. There was a drought in the land, and some cows and horses were dying for lack of grass and hay. One day when we were harvesting what little hay there was in the field, Grandfather told us to take the wagon to the corner of the field where the best stand of hay stood and fill the wagon as full as we could and take it to the tithing yard as payment of his tithing in kind.
I wondered how Grandfather could use the hay to pay tithing when some of the cows that we were depending upon to sustain us might starve. I even questioned if the Lord expected that much sacrifice from him. Ultimately, I marveled at his great faith that somehow the Lord would provide. The legacy of faith he passed on to his posterity was far greater than money, because he established in the minds of his children and grandchildren that above all he loved the Lord and His holy work over other earthly things. He never became wealthy, but he died at peace with the Lord and with himself.”
How much tithing are we command to pay?

D&C 119:4 - And after that, those who have thus been tithed shall pay one-tenth of all their interest annually

Very little other counsel is giving in this respect. It is between us and the lord the decide the actual dollar amount, and each year around this time we have the great blessings to meet with the bishop and report on our tithing. All he asks is if you weather or not you have paid a full tithe or not. Although he may give you a receipt, he’s not going act like an IRS agent and ask for your pay stubs or check your accounting methods. It’s not even necessary to make sure we have made all our contributions we plan to make for the year. He’s know it’s between you and the lord and is merely their to help as servant of the Lord. If you haven’t been paying your tithing this is the perfect opportunity to repent, and to start anew. Don’t feel like you have to catch up, the Lord doesn’t collect back taxes, but he does want to be able to bless you for your obedience going forward.

Let us not be like the men spoken of in:
MALACHI 3:8 “Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.”

President Joseph F. Smith (1838–1918) put it very boldly in saying: “By this principle it shall be known who is for the kingdom of God and who is against it. … By it it shall be known whether we are faithful or unfaithful” (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph F. Smith [1998], 276).

Tithing may seem difficult at to pay at times, but God has promised us that he will not give a commandment without provide a way for us to full fill it.

1st Nephi 3:7 “. . . the Lord giveth no commandments unto the children of men, save he shall prepare a way for them that they may accomplish the thing which he commandeth them.”

- Posted by S.J. Hollist

Seth.Hollist.org Moves to Spaldam's Rants

I've found myself unable to keep my seth.hollist.org web-page up to date, so I've decided to re-direct it here and help contribute to "Spaldam's Rants". If I find anything special that I want to draw particular attention to, I'll try to add a link to it on the side-bar from the main page; but be sure to check out all of the great information on this blog. I also have a couple of items I'll be keeping on my web-page that you can see listed bellow. What is bellow is a similitude as to what my web-pages home page used to look like. I chose to publish this post as September of 2005 because that's probably the last time I really updated my main web-page.

The best government is self-government or in other words, freedom to chose for ourselves, and understanding the natural laws that God has set forth. I regularly check up on my elected officials to see what they're doing with our freedoms, and write them letters regularly. I'm a very big support of The Constitution, and strongly believe to fully understand it one must study our forefathers and understand the language and word meanings used at the time. I also believe the Declaration of Independence is the moral foundation for the Constitution, and to understand The Constitution, one must understand this declaration. These two documents are the foundation of our country, and if we allow it to be left open to interpretation it will only serve to make for an unstable foundation. Any house built on an unstable foundation is doomed to fall.

Will I ever run for public office? Very much probably. As for now I have a young family to provide for and enjoy as I watch my kids grow up. Maybe once the kids are old enough to be on their own, and I get frustrated enough with the state of our government (sometimes I think I'm there) then I will. In the mean time I'll do what I can to learn about and watch history unfold while helping others, through this blog, to understand how our governments meddling affects our lives in ways I know I'd much rather not have.

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