Guns vs. Doctors

Number of physicians in the U.S.: 700,000
Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000
Accidental deaths per physician: 0.171
Number of gun owners in the U.S.: 80,000,000
Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups): 1,500
Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188
Therefore, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
Now, doesn't that make you feel safe?

-From the Benton County News Tribune, November 17, 1999

Bad Gun Laws

Currently, in Utah, there is a petition to have an act voted on next year. This act would prevent concealed weapons' permit holders from carrying guns into schools. What is that going to do to stop a non-"concealed weapons' permit holder"/criminal from taking a weapon into a school? How are all the law-abiding people inside the school going to protect themselves from those illegally taking these guns into the school?

Concealed weapons' permit holders should be the least of our worries when it comes to those who threaten our kids. It is the criminals, not the law-abiding citizens, we should fear.

I heard about a poll on the news the other day which showed that 80% of Utahns are in favor of this act. I have to question the error of this poll, and wonder if it is somehow biased. I have to do this not because I don't believe it, but because I fear it's truth.

The problem I see is that most people have been programmed to associate guns with criminals, and are oblivious to the truth. The truth that firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives of honest citizens then to take lives. 92% of the time the guns are only brandished, or fired a warning shot. These statistics can be found in HR 347 (106 Congress 1st Session); a bill "To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right," that would have reinforced our right to bear arms and protect law-abiding citizens from legal action if the fire arms are used in self defense. Unfortunately this bill did not pass. Why then is it that I have never heard of any such happenings on the news even though these happenings occur 60 times more often than the criminal shootings we hear on the news from time to time?

People fear what they don't understand, especially when only the bad is shown without any of the good. Is it no wonder that the general public is afraid of guns? Is it therefor no wonder why the public is in favor of laws that do nothing to stop criminals, but hurt the law-abiding citizens? Tougher restrictions on guns will only make it harder for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves - and those around them - from criminals who already don't care about the laws. Such laws will only help the criminals, and make stubborn, law-abiding citizens, into criminals.

Out of all the highly publicized highschool shootings, NONE of the shooters had gotten or possessed their weapons legally, that I am aware of. They had already broken plenty of laws, and it wouldn't have mattered if guns were illegal inside of schools. Have we forgotten the days when kids would bring their rifles to school because they were part of the gun club? We didn't have these problems back then, so what makes us think that guns have anything to do with the problem?

The only defense against this frightening possibility is to educate the general public. I used to think banning guns was a good idea, until I educated myself and discovered what that would really mean (more criminals, and less ability to defend oneself against crime). As a law-abiding citizen who has gone through the expense and time-consuming steps it takes to get a concealed weapons permit, I can guarantee you that no criminal will take the time to do any such thing just so they can sneak a gun into a school.

I fear the day when I cannot protect myself, my loved ones, and other innocent lives from a criminal, simply because I chose to follow a law that the criminal didn't. I pray this day never comes, just as much as I pray I will never have to use such force even though I would with no regret.

I'm not asking you to believe me, or anyone else for that matter. All I'm asking is that you do what I did, and find out for yourself, and once you've found the truth as I have, help others to find it for themselves.

My life till now...

Why?  Probably the biggest question ever; One that can only be truly answered with time, experience, knowledge, and Gods direction.  It seems so simple, but can become complex beyond our own understanding.  You ask yourself why you believe what you do, as you must first understand yourself, know who you are, and were you fit before you can truly understand those around you, and your environment in general.
Why do I believe what I do?  Many say there is no God, and no proof of his existence.  I say they don=t understand themselves.  I may not fully understand myself, but I know enough by understanding how my life has shaped me, how I have acted towards my environment and how god has helped me in my life.
I started out the same as everyone else by being born, growing up in my tailor made environment, and experiencing life in general.  I expect it to end eventually too, but then what?  Is there not always something on the other side, and just because there is no window to see through doses it still not affect us in some way?  Are we not connected in some way, and the affect directly dependent on how close we are?
We all have our societies that tell us who we are. Essentially brain washing and programming us, yet some how we manage to still become as individual as anything else in nature.  I started out being brain washed.  Doing what I knew to be a socially normal and expected thing.  Not understanding why.
It was stressful to do what I was and not understand why.  To not do it for myself, to not be happy, and to feel so deserted and betrayed.  I sat and studied trying to find something that may fill the void.  This is when shyness sets in and, a boy goes off on his own to make himself a self made man.
I eventually broke away; rather suddenly in fact.  I didn’t want to do it any more, so I stopped.  But then what.  I had some experience in Jr. high as to another life style, much less conservative, much less chaste and much less God fearing, yet it was only a taste.  Not quit what I felt I wanted, and defiantly not what I found.
High school was a time devoted to a much darker side, but I never did like the light.  The night became my friend and black my color.  Yet in many ways I still did what was expected of me, because some how I knew what was important.  Besides, I could, so I did.  It would be ironic to see the same friend that helped me into this world, indirectly help me out of it as well.
One good friend can easily lead to another, and good friends can have an impact on you that can influence you to no end.  I knew God was there.  Still it was the good influence of friends that brought me full circle.  I was back were I started, but with a better knowledge of the society and world in which I was, and a better understanding of myself.  Yet I still had far to go.
I had many experiences in this time that helped me understand and realize much.  Essentially bringing me to manhood.  Yet the good influences left and I found myself faltering with bad influences mounting up all around.  I had to get out, but didn’t know how.  Faith dwindled and hope fell, and I was left in despair.  And well in remembrance of my life long companion of loneliness.  I had no choice but to leave, to get out, and God knew this, and helped me just as soon as I asked him to.
A new beginning was given to me, and that=s where I am now.  With new hope and faith, asking God to keep me going in the right direction.

An Eternity in Your Eyes

How did I get here?!
Staring into a universe so beautiful
And not just one, but two
I am lost in wonder
Helplessly draw into your eyes
Wondering when life will start again.
Mesmerized and Hypnotized.
Hoping life will never be the same.
Hoping you and I will remain.
Hoping for more then I know
Hoping more that we can grow
Growing together in an eternity
I hope you shared
Wanting you more with helpless smiles
Wishing that we were closer by miles
Feeling a chance that I dare not lose
Feeling I'd be lost without you.
You give me such a service of joy
How I smile just by looking into yours.
How beautiful they are for eternity.
Is this love that I'm feeling,
Is this love or am I dreaming,
Is this the love that I've been searching for?
How do I feel when I'm dreaming?
Inside your eyes for an Eternity.

- S.J. Hollist

The Rotisory Foundation BBS went down June of '99

The Rotisory Foundation BBS went down June of '99.
after seven years of fun and frolic.
Last messages

Welcome to Spaldam's Rotisory Foundation Homepage.  If you'd like You can visit the real thing buy using your modem and a program such as HyperTerminal, QVT/Term, Quicklink II (Once shiped with most modems), or any ANSI or RIP compatible program.
What is the Rotisory Foundation?  Ever heard of a BBS?  It's sort of like a free, amateur online service.  It's not the internet, nor does it have tons of graphics, but it does have interactive, real-time games, files, and message bases (similar to News groups, and some of the message bases are connected to news groups).  Come join the fun........!!!!!!!

The Rotisory Foundation was run on OS/2 Warp

It was run on WWIV BBS software

The BBS was also powered by the PPP project

The Rotisory Foundation pix's

The Rotisory foundation BBS down, but not out.

The Rotisory foundation BBS down, but not out.
Spaldam Danmspam #1 @1
Sat Jun 19 10:36:58 1999
The Rotisory foundation no longer has a dedicated phone line. Due to maintenance problems with the old machine I was intending to leave in Kaysville while I move to Sandy, thinking I could manage the BBS remotely, I have move the BBS onto my windows machine here in Sandy only be be run once in a while. This move should not effect the networks except for TWIST which I've had problems connecting with when I call out to it. I will contact TWIST directly to see what can be done to solve this problem. I would like to apologize to all my users, but I'm not certain how I will be able to accomplish this except to try and convince the phone company to put a messages on the phone that the number has changed to TWIST's number as I think it's probably a local phone call for the majority of my users. I'm almost certain they won't go for it unless I can trick them into thinking I'm authorized to do so, and pay some extra fees.
Hopefully The Rotisory Foundation will open up to the public again some day, though I doubt that it will be in the form of a BBS. It's been fun, and I'm sad to see it come to this end. I will still remain active in some subs, but do plan to eventually phase out UTAHnet depending on how things work out with TWIST. Happy hunting's and may you all find peace in this
crazy world.
-Spaldam DanmSpam

The Rotisory Foundation BBS is no longer active. This E-mail address will be closed shortly. Sorry for the late notice, but I've decided it's all or nothing, and since recent events have make it very difficult to have any at all (as far as the BBS goes) I have decided it's no longer worth keeping up. It's been fun, and I hope The Rotisory Foundation will reemerge some day, but I doubt it will be in the form of a BBS.
Thanks, and may you all find peace in this crazy world.
-Spaldam DanmSpam

Subject: BBS and all.
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 99 07:40:20 (PDT)
From: "Art Johnston" <>
To: rotisoryfoundation

RE: The Rotisory Foundation down.

>to have any at all (as far as the BBS goes) I have decided it's no
>longer worth keeping up. It's been fun, and I hope The Rotisory
>Foundation will reemerge some day, but I doubt it will be in the form of
>a BBS.
>Thanks, and may you all find peace in this crazy world.
>P.S. please foward on to whom ever it may concern.

Best of luck! I have removed you from FileNet effective this message.

Please keep in touch. Can I ask one favor before you leave.
Can you send me a copy of your PPD Set up (files)



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